Ruby Ridge, Waco, I see the similarities

Reflecting on Dorner

What will happen if and when this nation has to face not a whack job, but millions of constitutionalists who at their core believe the Bill of Rights and the 2nd Amendment that flows from that sacred document have been attacked. Those who will and do believe the 2nd Amendment is anchored in religious freedom, free speech, and the right to protect themselves from the tyranny of government and lawless elements. Those who are prepared to defend themselves, their neighbors from the lawless intrusions of government trying to limit their constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

I speculated as I watched a little "news" yesterday. The massive enforcement turn out, the probable death of that Dorner nut job. The fire. I could not think my way through the musings. So many people for 1 wacko who had no meaningful support.

Friends at Ruby Ridge called me with firsthand accounts not seen through the eyes of the media, calls from people wanting to know what their legal rights were. Government at Ruby Ridge were outnumbered more than 10 to 1 by people calling themselves patriots. Guns ready for the defense of the Weavers, trunks full of both guns and ammunition.

I speculate. If there are those who also speculate on possible outcomes of a people united in the defense of their nation, and have some thoughts they can share, I am sure I could learn from the discussion.

Biden promises a shotgun will save your life

 The news is ablaze with the story of Joe Biden at the Facebook town hall meeting and his comments on shotguns vs. AR-15s. The right wing has a few different spins on what was said and what it means. The left has little to say in defense. The Key points made are:
 Biden says use a double barrel shotgun. It is better for home defense.
 Biden says an AR is harder to aim and harder to use. (comment aimed mostly at women)
 Although it is illegal to discharge a firearm in city limits he says to shoot two rounds in the air.

Here is why I think that shows that Biden knows very little about home defense, rifles, pistols, and least of all, Shotguns.

 If you use a shotgun  in a home invasion, you are limiting your mobility and ability inside your home. The idea that it is the best thing to grab does not make the most sense.
 If the invader truly is a bad guy, blasting off two rounds from a shotgun (not at the attacker) is only going to let the attacker know your exact location. Your disarmed location.
 "… You don't need an AR-15 — it's harder to aim, it's harder to use, and in fact you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself. Buy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun!".... WELL.... Not every attacker or home invader is outside your house when you find them. Speaking of THEM, it is not always one person you have to defend against. Remember Ruby Ridge? If you have half a dozen people attacking your home, or 20, or more...  Which do you feel would be harder to aim, harder to use at 50 yards? 100 yards?  My double barrel shotgun is not the first choice in my mind to defend against someone shooting at me from the trees at the end of the field. 
 I have a test for you (it gives you yet another excuse to go shooting. Like you need one?) Take a double barrel shotgun with number 6 shot, and an AR-15 out to your range. Set up a couple targets at 100 yards. Shoot at one with the shotgun and one with the AR-15 (or AR-10, I don't discriminate). See which is more effective at 100 yards.
 Sorry Joe Biden, but we do not all have secret service at our house to come running to the aid of our wives with assault rifles when they hear gunshots.

Is the State of the Union a civil war? Or, a revolution?

As we approach the abyss of civil war driven by the outrageous conduct of factions of the federal and various state governments, we are well guided by our founding fathers and their then declared terrorists actions to wrench with bloody hands the foundations of true freedom. Today they are called the patriots. 

Core to that freedom upon which this country was made great was the ability of the individual in defense of self, family, community, and the state to keep and bear arms. It is noted that when King George III attempted to disarm the colonies they rose up in defiance leading to the Revolutionary War.

The broad understanding of the Federal 2nd amendment in its day was correctly declared in the United States Supreme Court cases of the Heller and McDonald rulings to provide the people not only the ability to defend themselves from the tyranny of governments, but to be able to personally defend themselves by the right and force of arms.

For the state of Oregon to be admitted to the union of states comprising the Republic of the United States of America it had to submit a constitution that was not only ratified by the people of Oregon but then in turn it had to be accepted by that said Republic, which it was without reservation from the Republic. The State of Oregon reserved to its citizenry certain state constitutional fundamental guaranteed rights. One of those fundamental guaranteed rights accepted by the Republic is: "The people [of Oregon] shall have the right to bear arms for the defence [sic] of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power[.]" Oregon Constitution, Article 1, Section 27.

Not only is this reserved right guaranteed by the state of Oregon, it is guaranteed by the Federal government, not through the Heller and McDonald cases mentioned above, but even more directly by acceptance of these peoples declared rights through their constitution protecting them and me. See the Federal Constitution, 10th Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

It is not a federal right, but a right guaranteed to the people through the state to bear arms for our personal defense. Because the state reserved this to us with no further commentary it is not up to the Oregon State Legislature to determine limitations (gun controls) on this fundamental guaranteed right. It follows we should not have to obtain a license to carry a concealed firearms. We should not be restricted on the highways and byways in our travels with arms. We should not stand for limitations on the arms we choose to bear, whether single shot, semi automatic, or fully automatic. We should reject limitations on the magazine sizes of those arms.

There is a principal announced in all of the federal courts and state courts. That which government can regulate it can regulate to extinction. Each and every such arms regulation flies in the face of our guaranteed fundamental constitutional rights. It not only diminishes that right but can diminish that right to the point of extinction of any such rights we allow to be regulated.

Today we are challenged by the prostitutes and whores of government, those who attack the very foundations of freedom among which is the ability to stay free. They are those who would bend our will by force of unconstitutional laws such that we become political slaves, and even worse, actual slaves. As a necessary part of that process, to be successful they have to disarm us. They color those actions under the broad brushed tyranny of good intentions, and like the proverbial frog swimming in the pot, as they slowly turn up the heat of restrictions we will languish, and we will perish if we do nothing about it.

Our state, the state of Oregon, has declared that, "[A]ll men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may thing proper." Oregon Constitution Article 1, Section 1.

As I go to bed tonight I shall pray for understanding of what 1:1 means and how to implement it in the face of the political whores and prostitutes who would deny me my fundamental God given constitutional rights. I give thanks my 1st Amendment Right has yet to be so burdened I cannot freely engage political free speech.

2nd Amendment, Bill Of Rights, Constitution, Where are we headed?

  As I sit on FaceBook and read the uneducated comments and backlash from the right to the left, from the left to the right, I do not engage. If I want to talk politics I will do so with someone slightly  educated on the subject whether they agree with me or not.
  In our concealed handgun classes we preach (teach) "Read, Study, Learn". Do that. We have all been told history is doomed to repeat itself. And, history has proved that.
  Read, study, learn.
  There was a reason for the second amendment. There are those who say it is outdated. Those are wrong.
 Why was it worded the way that it was?
 Why did our founding fathers think it was necessary to protect these rights?
 Can it happen to us again?
Read the constitution. What led to the Declaration of Independence? Why did some of our forefathers refuse to roll over to the tyranny of our government?

There are several versions of the text of the Second Amendment, each with slight capitalization and punctuation differences, found in the official documents surrounding the adoption of the Bill of Rights.^[5] One version was passed by the Congress,^[6] while another is found in the copies distributed to the States^[7] and then ratified by them.

As passed by the Congress:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.^[8]

I have seen nothing in recent history that negates the need for our protection and freedom.

Reloading vs. buying ammo during Obama rule.

 Like everybody, I am not having the easiest time finding ammo for the AR-15 (.223), or for the .308

 I ordered a Dillon 650 multistage reloader, but it will not come for 8-12 weeks. Even then, reloading only saves money if you do not overspend on your supplies. I have been shopping for ammunition like crazy. Having a hard time finding it. And going crazy.

 Most of the .223 ammunition I have found is between .75 cents and $1 a round. On bulk ammo .com a thousand rounds was going for $905. At small gun stores I found boxes of twenty  for $15.95. At the gun show a box of 500 was going for $435 (and it was selling like crazy). People are showing up to the gun shows with handcarts hoping to find almost anything. (I saw people buying Wolf ammo for $10 a box). This is in the Willamette Valley in western Oregon.

  And then there is me. I am just as hungry for ammo as everyone else but I'll be damned if I am going to pay to the gougers just because they think they can profit from the needy. Don't get me wrong. I believe in supply and demand, but the ammunition manufacturers have not seemed to raise their prices to the dealers. Over the last four weeks I have only been able to get my hands on about 1700 rounds, but I have only paid .30-.40 cents a round.

  DILIGENCE and PERSEVERANCE.

  I have been calling box stores and gun stores and checking online. This is a pain in the ass for some, but it pays off. Today I got 100 rounds for 27.78

  Two days ago 160 rounds for 64.00

  The most I have paid for ammo in the last month and a half is $90 for 200 rounds at the NEW Tannerite store in Eugene.

  Places to check:

Wal-Mart

Bi-Mart

Big 5

Check the manufacturer websites.

  Anybody want to trade ammo for your concealed handgun class?

What other good ideas do you have?

Where is a good place to get ammo?